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  God will forgive me....apparently

  by punkofnice in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i left the jws and went to a baptist church which was far better than anything i'd known before having been born into the dangerous cult of the watchtower corporation.. having travelled a path of spirituallity i have concluded that there is no god evident to me.

  evolution?

  i have no idea...i just live my life knowing that when i die there is nothing after it.

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  You are forgiven. Go your way, and believe no more.
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  Former Long Time Elder, part 3

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to answer some of your questions.

  i phone my son on thursday and was able to help him get his paper work in order for, get this: "college".

  we're good.. the wife and i have about 10 family members that are jw's as well as over 12 close friends, 100's of friends in 5 states.

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  ShirleyW: HELLO!

  You said, "... we had a Circuit Servant, Bro., Wiegel, in the early 70's..."

  Shirley, my dear, YOU are the first person other then I who has mentioned good ol' pain-in-the-ass "Weasel Weigel"!!! It it SUCH a pleasure to find even one person with whom I shared a fleeting bit of reality!

  Weasel was widely disliked, so it figures he has moved up the ranks in the JW pantheon. Do you recall the really nice CS who followed Weasel. He was Paul "somebody" - I can't think oh his name right now - I'll call the White House and ask what I was thinking... Haviland! Yes, I think he was Paul Haviland! A really NICE guy, obviously not Watchtower mgmt material...
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  Theists - Why does Morality require the existence of God?

  by cantleave in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  "without god in your life, you cannot have a moral compass",,,, please explain to me why you think that should be so?

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  I'm an atheist. I have no fear of judgemnt day.

  "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" says NOTHING about god.

  If god-based morality is superior, why is it so ineffective?

  The phrase "having a form of godly devotion but proving false to its power" is an indictment of the majority of "god-fearing" people of the world.

  I agree with Ayn Rand that informed self-interest is a perfect foundation for morality.
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  Dat da da da: Justitia Themis Law School Graduate

  by crmsicl in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  congratulations to justitia themis on all her hard work at putting herself through law school.

  after being raised in the watchtower organization and having survived all of what that entails she has picked up the pieces, analyzed her strengths and has made choices to better herself and the community.. .

  i am so proud of her.

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  Congratulations Justitia! This is an excellent accomplishment!
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  Former, Long Time Part 2

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first of all thanks for all the kind words!!!

  i am over whelmed by the responses.

  i work very hard through the week and the only time i can reply is in the early morning hours, i read the respones on my iphone through out the day, if there was a way to log on with the phone, i would.

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  an alternative definition of BORG = Brooklyn Organization.

  add'l defs:

  Dub = the ultimate contraction of "Jay Double U" (JW)

  When you pray to "Jehovah" and "Jesus," what do you imagine is happening? Do you think real entities are hearing you, or do you realize that you are talking to yourself?
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  The significance and purpose of BAPTISM - new article

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ive just published a new article on my website, this time about about the subject of baptism.

  its titled the significance and purpose of baptism.

  its divided in 5 parts:.

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  EdenOne, Steve2 is a man of discernment - you cannot turn your back on the WT unless you first join it.
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  Former Long Time Elder, New Member

  by James Jackson in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i have served 20 years as an elder, 5 years as an ms. was on the district committee in 2010, held various positions on the district , circuit, and rbc level.

  probably been on more than 100 judicial committees and even an appeals committee.

  was the coordinator in our congregation and deleted because adult child was df ( i kicked him out at the time of his wrongdoing, but that wasn't enough for thr brothers).

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  Welcome James Jackson, former long time elder!

  I would like to offer a word of warning, however. If you think that your meaningless* Watchtower "credentials" mean diddly-squat in here, or that you will "guide," "diect," or "shepherd" anyone here on the basis of your Watchtower creds, you are going to be very, very disappointed.

  *They only mean that you swam in the deep end of the mind-control-cult swimming pool.
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  The significance and purpose of BAPTISM - new article

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ive just published a new article on my website, this time about about the subject of baptism.

  its titled the significance and purpose of baptism.

  its divided in 5 parts:.

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  The first step in becominng an apostate is baptism.
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  Some JW,s are as nutty as a fruit cake.

  by jam in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  it,s been a busy week for me, another death and funeral.. the old saying death comes in three,s.

  my ex uncle who.

  lived in my city.this what get me so upset.

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  Thus it can be said that "by their fruitcakes ye shall know them."

  She is the ONLY JW at a family gathering and she wants you to tell him he's not welcome? F that S!

  I would undermine her. I'd tell him there is going to be a family gathering and you are welcome, but your idiot ex-wife will be there, so be prepared. I would encourage him to go, even offering to go with him, and I'd help him be THE social butterfly of the day.
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  Islam 'penetrates' Europe.

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. social
  2. current

  scare mongering videos abound, but this one is a bit better than average.

  what they forecast may well happen given another 3-4 generations.

  a muslim leader was sayign the same thing here in sydney yesterday.. .

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  Europe will be toast by 2025.